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Manifested Sons of God: Message of the Enemies of the Cross?

The enemies of the cross wield a two-edged sword. One edge is the self-esteem edge…this would be found in the teachings of Joel Osteen or Joseph Prince.  A message that stresses “you” and “your best life”, “grace” and the “goodness” of God over and against anything else found in Scripture or reality. It is a feelings based and appearance based Christianity.  A kind of Kingdom of Cognitive (Christian)Therapy…feeling good and looking good is god. If you mention the cross or the cost…you will be labeled a Pharisee, religious, or judgmental.  Encouragement is important. It is not the Gospel. It is not central to our walk.  Grace is essential, but is never the excuse.  Many who support a Joel Osteen or a Joseph Prince have never encountered the Cross.  Many attend their meetings, read their books, and follow them on Twitter, but don’t know Christ and if they do…they don’t understand the walk or depth of our calling.

The other edge of the sword is the Dominion/Kingdom Now/Nar/Manifested Sons of God message. This is the edge that takes the man-centered gospel of “feeling good” and inflates into a mandate for the Church. Add a little leaven to the Kingdom of Cognitive (Christian) Therapy and it grows into a message of godhood.  It is the “kingdom” message as written by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. It appeals to the masses and is mastered by men who misunderstand the nature of Jesus Christ (and His message) or by men who believe their mandate is the answer.  The cross was merely the starting point for them to, “Go forth and conquer.”

Man inflates.

Man creates a narrative and pushes it no matter the cost.

Man has always and will always want to be his own savior, lord, or king and will always choose to “serve” by controlling or dominating.

Man wants power; wants the feeling of being in charge; and ultimately vindication.

The Cross deflates.

The Cross is the narrative and is its own cost.

The Cross is the power of God and the answer to and for man…believers included.

Remember…many in Israel missed the purpose and work of Jesus Christ because they expected Him to destroy Rome’s dominion, take the throne of David,  and govern from Jerusalem. They did not understand or accept the Cross. Today…many (of the same spirit) are now saying that the Church’s mandate is to do what Jesus didn’t do the first time. They do not understand or accept the Cross.

This is a bit personal for me.  My uncle left me his library many years ago.  It was full of books and audiotapes of William Branham’s sermons/teachings.  When I first was born from above (coming out of Mormonism) I went to a church where the pastor idolized William Branham and John Alexander Dowie. Branham pushed the manifested sons of God theology/latter rain etc…, He gave it a voice.  Others have picked it up…especially Earl Paulk.  Oh…by the way…if you use Branham to prove your points on Christology or if your teaching is similar to his..YOU NEED HELP.  Likewise…if you base your marriage on the practices of John Alexander Dowie…YOU NEED HELP.

Here are a few examples of the shades and shadows of the “modernized” manifested sons of God theology.

Bill Johnson version…

There are measures and levels of anointing that cause the reality of the Scripture to change for us. A generation is forming now that will walk in an anointing that has never been known by mankind, including the original 12 disciples. This generation won’t need natural illustrations to help them understand what their spiritual task is. They will move into spiritual territory that defies the natural order. God wants to give us revelations and experiences of Heaven that have no earthly parallel. Jesus told Nicodemus, “If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things ?” (John 3:12) He longed to talk about things that His disciples were not ready to receive…Jesus walked in an anointing of the Spirit beyond measure.  He constantly illustrated superior truths by stepping outside the boundaries of nature. The more you and I become empowered and directed by the Spirit of God, the more our lives should defy natural principles, and release the spiritual realities God intended for us to enjoy. (Shifting Shadows of Supernatural Power p.191)

Rick Joyner version…

The apostles will rule the Church through establishing independent churches, unaffiliated with the corrupt denominations. The exception which is currently underway, is that denominational churches would abandon  being separate, join the movement coming under their leadership. It is essential to the Latter Rain movement for the church to be unified as one, under a central leadership.  Otherwise Christ cannot be incarnated (manifested) in the Church and give his power to conquer the world for Christ.

That the world will be conquered through an elite group of overcomers who produce signs and wonders unlike anything ever seen, even in the early church by the apostles. This they believe will lead us to the greatest revival of history. An endtime harvest of billions of souls, where the majority of the world will be won to Christ and the kingdom would be established or ready to be received by Christ. “This harvest will be so great that no one will look back at the early church as a standard; all will be saying that the Lord has certainly saved His best wine for last. The early church was a firstfruits offering, truly this will be a harvest! It was said of the Apostle Paul that he was turning the world upside down; it will be said of the apostles soon to be anointed that they have turned an upside down world right side up. Nations will tremble at the mention of their name.” (Rick Joyner, Restoration, may/June 1988, the Harvest)

“Angelic appearances will be common to the saints and a visible glory of the Lord will appear upon some for extended periods of time as power flows through them. There will be no plague, disease, or physical condition, including lost limbs, AIDS, poison gas, or radiation, which will resist the healing and miracle gifts working in the saints during this time” (Rick Joyner, The Harvest, 128-129)

Bill Hamon version…

“The Church will gain victory over the last enemy, death. Victory speaks of a battle being fought. The last day saints will wage and win a warfare against death. The last generation saints will come to translating faith in preparation for participation in the translation.” (The Eternal Church, P.349)

“The Earth and all of creation is waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God, the time when they will come into their maturity and immortalization… When the Church receives its full inheritance and redemption then creation will be redeemed from its cursed condition of decay, change and death… the Church has a responsibility and ministry to the rest of creation. Earth and Its natural creation Is anxiously waiting for the Church to reach full maturity and come to full sonship. When the Church realizes its full sonship, its bodily redemption will cause a redemptive chain reaction throughout all of creation.” (Bill Hamon p. 385 The Eternal Church)

 

Johnny Enlow version…

“We have entered an age when aging will be reversed.  There is now a glory invading the atmosphere that carries a new grace of longevity.  It will become common for God’s kids to carry on in strength while 100 years old.  Then it will extend beyond that.  I see this new descending glory as a cloud touching our atmosphere.  It is necessary to live “tall” enough to touch this glory.  This is not about being holy enough but about carrying the right narrative of this age of restoration of all things.  Those who will carry the glory of this His story will begin to see this shift in their own bodies.  This is not going to be able to be accessed if you are in “I’ll fly away” mode.  If your mind is in escape mode your body will follow.  Rather this will be a progressive reality for those willing to contend for the goodness of God in the land of the living.”

Jonathan Welton (author of Raptureless)  version…

“You are an ambassador and citizen of heaven. You have the fullness of the Godhead in you. You are not to live merely as a human. Yet we must not forget that we live in an active warzone with a rebellious defeated enemy that won’t quit fighting.” (FB post)

“Clement of Alexandria, one of the early Church fathers, described the atonement this way: “The Logos of God had become man so that you might learn from a man how a man may become God.” Similarly, the third century theologian, Origen, wrote, “From Christ began the union of the Divine with the human nature in order that the human, by communion with the Divine, might rise and also become Divine.” Athanasius, a significant father within the Eastern Orthodox Church, had a grasp of the incarnation and an understanding of God apart from the Platonism that muddled Augustine’s thinking. About the incarnation, he wrote, “The Word was made man so that we might be made God.”

Quotes like these can sound scary to a lot of people. It sounds too much, perhaps, like claiming to be God. However, our participation in the divine nature is really important to our identity as the Bride of Christ, because Christ needs to marry an equal. This, of course, does not mean we become God. The Trinity, the Godhead, is uncreated divinity, self-existing, eternal, always omnipresent and omnipotent. The Godhead is unique and will never be replicated. However, as the Bride of Christ, we become “created divinity”. God incarnated to help humans become incarnate…”

“As citizens of heaven (Phil. 3:20), and as ambassadors of heaven (2 Cor. 5:20), we are here with a mission. Jesus is not coming back until we finish the “Apostolic Mission” the mission of the Apostolos, to implement the Culture of Heaven into the Culture of the Earth.

Yes, someday the Church will have completed this mission. Sons and daughters of King Jesus will know who they are and will live out their identity as righteous people. Suffering will be brought to a minimum in the earth realm. Sin will have been massively decreased. The sex industry will have collapsed and broken families will be restored. People will live longer, healthier and more joy-filled lives. There will be no more orphans, no more starvation, and sickness will be rare.

All the enemies of God will bow under Jesus’ feet until finally death is put under His feet as the last foe (1 Cor. 15:26). All other foes will be subdued as we put them under our feet (Romans 16:20).

The day will come when the culturing of the Apostolos has completed the Apostolic Mission. On that day, Jesus will be able to touch His toe to earth in physical form and finally say as the Roman Emperor’s did in days past, “This place feels a lot like home!”(Raptureless pp.233-34)

Martin Trench (Co-author of Victorious Eschatology with Harold Eberle ) version…

“I don’t know how you imagine it; maybe as some futuristic utopia, or maybe like the beautiful paradise of Pandora in the movie Avatar (minus the scary reptiles and the mercenary invaders), but whatever metaphor we imagine, the future is bright, because God is moving in many ways, exposing corruption, inspiring change, increasing our knowledge, working through all people and all creation to lead is onto a brighter, better world – a truly Golden Age. In this current Age we live in, we get the opportunity to “taste and see that the Lord is good!” (Psalm 34:8) we get to have a foretaste of “the powers of the Age to come” (Hebrews 6:5). It seems, in the context of the book of Hebrews (which is all about the very near end of the Old Covenant and its Age, and the full meaning of the Old Covenant symbols and promises as fulfilled spiritually in Christ and in our lives as his followers), the writer is telling his readers that not only should they now totally discard all the trappings of the former Age, and not only should they live in the reality of a new life of faith in Christ in this Age, but he tells them that what they are experiencing in this newly born Age is simply a foretaste of what is to come in the next Age – as the kingdom is ever-increasing, so their foretaste is destined to increase and enlarge until it blossoms into another, yet future, coming Age where such experiences are normal, common place, part of life.

If our eyes were opened, to quote Elizabeth Barrat Browing – “Earth’s crammed with heaven, And every common bush afire with God; But only he who sees, takes off his shoes – The rest sit round it and pluck blackberries” – we would see that “ever bush is ablaze ” – Moses eyes were opened. He saw the blazing glory of that other world shining and burning in a non destructive way through the bush. But one day it will be as if heaven and earth merge into one – the whole universe suddenly evolves into an upgrade, as it is visible, tangibly, eternally infused with the life-force of God’s very self – the whole of creation is divinized, it becomes timeless, no longer subject to decay, because that is only a phenomena of time. And what about us? We have had this wonderful “Age-enduring life” in our “spiritual bodies” expressing our individual separateness still, to a certain extent. But now, we all become fully divinized as well. I don’t image that we will “lose ourselves” in God, but I think we will be fully God-realized, for want of a better term. I suppose there is a better term in theology, it called Theosis – the experience of being divinized by being so full in union with God, that the two are one – not just it principle, but in experience. That is when “the end shall come”. “(http://martintrench.com/the-ancient-biblical-teaching-of-the-ages-part-8/)

 

Any thoughts ?

 

 

 

 

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The NAR’s Gospel

Here are some quotes from the book Father-Son Theology by Harold Eberle.  In it’s second edition, the title was changed to Systematic Theology for the New Apostolic Reformation An Exposition in Father-Son Theology and a forward by Dr. C. Peter Wagner was added.

“There is a separation between God and humanity, but it is on the part of humanity not God. Let me explain.

When Adam and Eve ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the number one result was that they became aware of good and evil. This is exactly what God said changed: “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil (Gen. 3:22) Genesis 3:7 tells us, “Then the eyes of both of them were opened…” Because they knew good and evil, they knew that God was good and that they had sinned.

Knowing the difference between God and them, they became ashamed: “they knew that they were naked” (Gen 3:17) In Genesis 3:8, we read:

“They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord”

Adam and Eve were ashamed so they tried to distance themselves from God. God did not distance Himself from Adam and Eve. He pursued them. Because Adam and Eve were ashamed, God made garments for them to cover themselves (Gen 3:21). The garments were not for God’s benefit. They were for Adam and Eve to feel less ashamed.

Before Adam and Eve ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they could not see the difference (in relation to holiness) between themselves and God. Therefore, they were unashamed to be in the presence of God. They causally and freely talked with God, but once they ate of that tree they could see what goodness is, and they could see that they did not measure up. So “the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God” (Gen 3:8) Shame caused them to separate themselves from God….God did not abandon humanity because of Adam’s sin. There was no chasm of infinity created between God and humanity. In fact, the New Testament assures us that God is very close to every person. (Acts 17:27)”  pp.275,276

 

“Reformed theology is wrong. Humanity is not eternally separated from God because of Adam’s sin. ” p.282

 

“It is time to rethink what influence Adam’s sin has had on the world….

Consider an alternative understanding. In Romans 5:12, notice where sin went as a result of Adam’s sin. We are told that “sin entered into the world.” The word world has been translated from the Greek word kosmos. This Greek word can refer to humanity, but it can also refer to creation, the earth, or corrupt society. Most often it is translated as “world,” referring to creation.

In Romans 5:12, kosmos must be referring to creation because three chapters later, Paul explained that “creation was subjected to futility” (Rom 8:20). Paul also talked about a day when “creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption” (Rom 8:21). So then, we see Paul’s understanding that sin influenced all of creation, not just Adam’s descendants. This implies that Adam’s sin came into all of the world in the sense of creation.

Consider what God said to Cain, the immediate descendant of Adam and Eve:

“And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it. (Gen 4:7)

Notice that God did not say, “Sin is inside of you because your parents have sinned.” God warned Cain that sin was “crouching at the door”; that is, sin was outside of him waiting to come into his life. pp.293,294

 

If you ask evangelical Christians, “What is the gospel?” most of them will answer something like this:

“Jesus died for our sins, and if we accept Him as Savior, we will be saved and go to heaven when we die.”

That is certainly good news. It is good news in keeping with the truth that all people sin and need a Savior. This message corresponds to the Classical/Reformed view of God and the penal substitution view of the atonement. In particular, it is founded in the idea that people need to be saved, first and foremost, from the wrath of God.

Of course, it is good news that believers will not experience the wrath of God, but upon further consideration, we learn that this gospel is a very limited understanding of salvation. This limited understanding is often called the gospel of salvation.

In contrast to the gospel of salvation is the gospel of the Kingdom. The gospel of the Kingdom is what we see Jesus and His disciples preaching…

There are important differences between the gospel of salvation and the gospel of the kingdom.

One of the differences is their foundation in the work of Jesus. The gospel of salvation is founded in the death of Jesus, while the gospel of the Kingdom is founded in the death, resurrection, ascension, and enthronement of Jesus. pp.469-71

 

Teachers of Reformed Theology champion the gospel of salvation. In line with that gospel, they teach that in order to be saved people must realize that they are sinners, turn their hearts toward God, and accept Jesus as Savior. This is considered the path to salvation.

1.Realize one’s own sinfulness

2. Turn one’s heart to God

3. Accept Jesus as Savior….

If Christians embrace the gospel of the Kingdom as the gospel, then they will identify the path to salvation differently. To see this, consider how our Lord preached: “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Matt 4:17) The response expected from the person who hears this gospel is to “repent.”

When modern Christians hear this word, repent, they often envision a person feeling sorry for their sins, but that is reading the Bible through the overly sin-conscience mind of Western Christianity. The word repent (metanoeo in Greek) actually means “turn”. Turning may include turning away from sin, but that is not the primary focus. In the context of the gospel of the Kingdom, repent refers to a person turning in a way that brings their life into conformity with the Kingdom of God.

This understanding would have been much more tangible in the culture of Bible times. Kings often went out with their armies to conquer various people groups. When a new king was victorious, people were expected to surrender and acknowledge the new king. The people would often be allowed rights as citizens of the new kingdom, so long as they swore allegiance to the new king.

In a comparative fashion, Jesus is Lord, and He reigns over the Kingdom of God. Any person who hears this message and acknowledges the Lordship of Jesus Christ is welcomed into the Kingdom of God. pp.473-474

 

Is anybody else seeing what I am seeing ?

 

 

 

NAR… Producers of Another Jesus, Another Gospel, and Another Commission

Flirting with another Jesus and another Gospel will produce another mission or commission..  Below are some quotes form the book Invading Babylon by Lance Wallnau and Bill Johnson. Contributions were made by Che Ahn, Patricia King, Alan Vincent and C. Peter Wagner. Accents in bold are mine.

But first….some comments.

The root to another Jesus (mystical, signs and wonders, lovey dovey, cash cow, etc…,) is unbelief.

The root to another Gospel (no wrath, no punishment, no judgment, no separation between God and man, man is not that bad, etc…,)  is unbelief.  (See Father-Son Theology a Systematic Theology for the New Apostolic Reformation by Harold Eberle)

The root to another Great Commission (salt preserves culture, invades Babylon, molds minds, doesn’t worry about conversions but disciple placement, and $$$ is the missing link to effectiveness) is unbelief.

Remember how the serpent added to what God had said…in the very beginning ?

Today, men (Christian leaders) are adding to what God said.

Unbelief in the nature of redemption, in the nature of God, and in the supremacy of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is spreading.

Complicity is sin.

Bill Johnson, Lance Wallnau, Che Ahn, Patricia King, Alan Vincent, C. Peter Wagner, Jonathan Welton, Harold Eberle, Martin Trench are all complicit in spreading unbelief and adding to what God has said.

The quotes…

 

HOW DO WE TAKE OVER THE WORLD? WE MUST HAVE A STRATEGY.

Wallnau, Lance; Johnson, Bill. Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountain Mandate (Kindle Locations 526-527). Destiny Image, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

As long as the Church thinks the purpose of the Great Commission is anything less than penetrating and occupying the mind molders of the nations in order to bring about a sustained influence that shapes the culture, we are asleep. The fields, our nations, are not only vulnerable to the enemy, but they are also being aggressively cultivated right under our noses.

Wallnau, Lance; Johnson, Bill. Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountain Mandate (Kindle Locations 665-668). Destiny Image, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

We are salt. We slow down the decay of culture. We are also light, which means that we illuminate a pathway into a better future.

Wallnau, Lance; Johnson, Bill. Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountain Mandate (Kindle Locations 707-708). Destiny Image, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

To be light to the world is to reflect the illuminating power of the coming age right in the midst of this one. It is to see the future and bring it into the present so that others can know what the coming Kingdom looks like.

Wallnau, Lance; Johnson, Bill. Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountain Mandate (Kindle Locations 714-715). Destiny Image, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

God is waiting for us to access His presence, His counsel, and His insight so that we can apply Heaven’s solutions to earth and teach His ways by demonstrating solutions to problems. What Jesus demonstrated in healing human bodies is the same power that can transform nations.

Wallnau, Lance; Johnson, Bill. Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountain Mandate (Kindle Locations 717-719). Destiny Image, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

The question in the minds of many who are bold enough to probe beneath the surface is: Why haven’t we seen more of the reformation that we’ve been talking about? In my personal reckoning, the season in which those of us who are charismatically inclined evangelicals began to put the Dominion Mandate front and center began in 1990, and it sharply accelerated after the turn of the century. We have been doing everything we know how to do to see our cities transformed. However, after 20 years we cannot point to a single city in America that has been reformed according to objective sociological measurements…

Reformation seems more elusive than we expected. Thoughtful people will naturally ask why. Are we doing something wrong? Is something missing? What changes do we need to make? There are certainly many answers to these questions. The particular missing piece that I want to address in this chapter is money. I repeat, money! Trust me. We will not see measureable, sustained transformation of our cities or states or nations if those who are providing strategic leadership do not have access to large sums of money.

Wallnau, Lance; Johnson, Bill. Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountain Mandate (Kindle Locations 1030-1031). Destiny Image, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

Satan virtually had his way over the human race until Jesus came. Jesus was called the “last Adam” because, through His death and resurrection, He turned things back around (see 1 Cor. 15: 20-28, 45). He came to seek and to save that which was lost. What was lost? The dominion over creation was lost because Adam forfeited it in the Garden of Eden. Jesus brought a new Kingdom, the Kingdom of God, which was to replace the perverse kingdom that satan had established. He came to reconcile the world back to Himself, and He assigned the ministry of reconciliation to us (see 2 Cor. 5: 18). Since then, it has been the responsibility of the people of God, empowered by the Holy Spirit, to regain the dominion that Adam was originally supposed to have. This is the Dominion Mandate.

Take, for instance, Jesus’ Great Commission: “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations…” (Matt. 28: 19 NKJV). Previously many of us interpreted that to mean that we were to go into the nations in order to win as many souls as possible. Now, in light of the Dominion Mandate, we take it literally and see that we are to disciple nations as whole social units. Our task, then, is nothing less than reforming nations or people groups or social units of whatever scope. The values and blessings of God’s Kingdom must become characteristic of whole cities or states or countries. But practically speaking, part of the process of making that happen is to have large amounts of wealth available.

Wallnau, Lance; Johnson, Bill. Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountain Mandate (Kindle Locations 1066-1071). Destiny Image, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

It is no wonder that Solomon said, “… Money answers everything” (Eccl. 10: 19). In light of this, we must take the steps necessary to see that wealth pours into the hands of Kingdom-minded and Kingdom-motivated leaders who can successfully move God’s people into sustained reformation of society. This is the will of God.

Wallnau, Lance; Johnson, Bill. Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountain Mandate (Kindle Locations 1084-1086). Destiny Image, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

The answer to this must have to do with God’s timing. The wealth is undoubtedly there, but apparently we are not yet ready to receive it. For one thing, I believe that God was waiting for the biblical government of the Church to come into place under apostles and prophets. But this happened in 2001 when, at least according to my estimates, the Second Apostolic Age began. What more? I now think that in order for us to be able to handle the wealth responsibly, we need to recognize, identify, affirm, and encourage the ministry of apostles in the six non-religion mountains. They may or may not want to use the term “apostle,” but they will function in Kingdom-based leadership roles characterized by supernaturally empowered wisdom and authority. We have more work to do here.

Wallnau, Lance; Johnson, Bill. Invading Babylon: The 7 Mountain Mandate (Kindle Locations 1095-1099). Destiny Image, Inc.. Kindle Edition.